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  Leonard Clinton Williams III

  I know a good bit about pharmacology. I have family in that business. Also know a bunch of people in the treatment field.

  How long did you take 15 mg?

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    Leonard Clinton Williams III I was taking them for just over 4yrs.

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    Leonard Clinton Williams III

    and you just quit all at once?

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  • Ben Lumsden

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    I tapered over a period of 4 weeks.

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    Yeah that sounds too fast. This was to treat schizophrenia?

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  • Ben Lumsden

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    No really bad anxiety and paranoid thoughts.

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    Leonard Clinton Williams III

    Ben Lumsden can you elaborate on what the paranoid thoughts were?

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    Leonard Clinton Williams III

    Ben Lumsden I may have offended you. I didn’t mean to get too deep into your private matters, you seemed to be sharing a lot.

    If you still need help I will be happy to help you.

    I’ll try to be more general and vague to preserve your privacy.

    Did the paranoid thoughts go away with the olanzapine and then come back after you tapered off on your withdrawal plan? If they went away that may be a sign that you definitely need this or another similar medication.

    When you say “paranoid thoughts”, what do you mean? Do you mean an emotional distrust in general? For instance, you have to watch what you say and keep secrets. Or is it something where your mind goes to a place where everyone you meet is or could be “out to get you”?

    Paranoid can be many things. Also, what forms of treatment have you used for this now and in the past?

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  Hi yes the paranoid thought went away when I was on Olanzapine and came back once I had stopped. You didn’t offend me I just deleted my last comment because I didn’t want to trigger anyone else. Yes I feel everyone is out to get me.

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    Leonard Clinton Williams III

    Ben Lumsden FYI there is a rule for triggering on this forum, you can look it up. You notate the post as a trigger warning and make some lines.

    Is this feeling a general feeling that everyone is out to get you, or is it more focused on a specific group of people?

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    Leonard Clinton Williams III

    If you didn’t get that last bit, what I’m saying is you can trigger all you want as long as you note your post

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    Leonard Clinton Williams III

    Ben Lumsden it truthfully sounds like you should stick with olanzapine, unless the side effects are completely unbearable. These kind of medicines will have severe side effects and sometimes you pick the lesser evil.

    What were the side effects you had?

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  • Ben Lumsden

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    I am back on a low dose 2.5mg and feeling a bit better the main side effects I had were massive weight gain but hopefully this won't be as bad on this low dose I am on.

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    Leonard Clinton Williams III

    Ben Lumsden weight gain is common. You’ve got to watch out for diabetes. How much did you gain each year?

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    Leonard Clinton Williams III

    about 20% of body weight per year is common

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  • Ben Lumsden

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    I put on 3 stone over the 4yrs.

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    Leonard Clinton Williams III

    Ben Lumsden that is not bad. Have you looked at alternative medications? I’d say 10 lbs a year is a pretty light side effect. You may do better elsewhere if you tried. It’s always a gamble

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  • Ben Lumsden

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    Yes I have been on various medications over the years such as Haloperidol, Seroquel, Risperdal and Chlorpromazine but they all made me way to tired to function which Olanzapine does not. My plan is to stay on this new dose of Olanzapine and see how I am in a few months and then decided if to stay on it or wean off again.

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    Leonard Clinton Williams III

    Ben Lumsden yeah I think that sounds good. It’s always preferable to not take medication. The skill to have for dealing with paranoia after you’ve weaned off on a withdrawal plan is to be able to not let others make you suspicious. It’s possible to exert your willpower to rid yourself of intrusive paranoid thoughts, but what people are subject to is when other people suggest that people might be up to something or out to get you, it brings it all back. Kind of like you can tame your own suspicions but any influence from the outside to make you paranoid will tip you over the edge. I would be practicing for how to handle that situation.

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    Ben Lumsden let me know if that helps. I do hope you get better

    

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    Leonard Clinton Williams III

    Ben Lumsden and just so you know, I am a very good resource for this for more than one reason. You can go on that I say.

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